DWINSLOW
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| 09-04-2010 11:49 PM |
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I live in North Carolina and I use my garage as my workshop. The temperature in my garage reaches 95 quite often. I have a gas hot water heater, a refrigerator and a freezer in the garage and I know that this all contributes to the heat. I've tried insulating the hot water heater, adding a whole house fan in the ceiling that vents to the outside and a ceiling fan all with no results. My last hope is that I could add a window unit air conditioner (approx. 8,00 BTU) in my garage. The only problem is that I don't have a window in my garage. My question is if it would be feasible to make an opening that just fits the outline of the air conditioner and not actually add a window. Can you make a really good seal around the air conditioning unit this way? My garage is approximately 800 - 900 square feet. Thanks for any help Don |
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marvin668
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| 09-05-2010 05:05 AM |
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It is feasible. A few years ago I helped my neighbor install a unit in the side of his house where he had no window. Just framed it like I would have for installing a window. Built a plywood box and attached that inside the opening. Put some trim around it on the inside and J channeled around the outside then replaced the siding we took off. You could use a foam weather strip to seal it, but my neighbor just caulked his on the outside. He built a box to cover it in the winter time. Rain and such should be no more a concern than if it was put in a window. |
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Oldman
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| 09-05-2010 06:52 AM |
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Careful measurements (measure twice-cut once) and framing the opening as you would a window should work with no problem. This is done quite often. You probably want to keep the base on a slight slope (angle) so the water created by the unit, will drain outside. Seal it well and you should have no air lost to the outside. I wouldn't hesitate to go with a 10,000 btu unit. Better to much then one that will be overworked and not do the best job.
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craig
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| 09-05-2010 07:22 AM |
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Why put a hole in the garage when you don't need to? There are portable AC units on the market...some have heaters built into them also. http://www.homedepot.com/Appliances...ogId=10053 |
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Craig
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scooterdown
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| 09-05-2010 03:51 PM |
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Put it on the north side of the garage if possible. Put it up high. Cold air drops. Is there a ceiling? Is the garage insulated? If its 900 sq ft. You will need 18,000 btu...... The R.O.T.is 600 sq ft. per ton of refrigerant or 12,000 btu's 300 sq ft more or1/2 a ton of refrigerant or 6,000 btu =18,000 btus The most important thing is that the garage must be insulated or cooling will not be effective.
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| Stop The Cry'n and Do Some Try'n.......
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ron 45
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| 09-08-2010 01:40 AM |
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These are all good suggestions, and made me start to think...... I would get a big enough unit so it would not be over worked. It would have a thermostat control switch ( remote controlled) that would also have the energy saving option. I would put it up high not only to better cool the place but, also keep the dust from collecting in the filter. I would run a pipe from the drain plug down the wall and away from the house.. |
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tkeener
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| 09-08-2010 04:15 PM |
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OKAY, but you don't want it too big, or it will cool too quickly and won't run enough to keep the humidity down.
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scooterdown
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| 09-08-2010 05:54 PM |
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If its 900 sq ft. You will need 18,000 btu.
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| Stop The Cry'n and Do Some Try'n.......
Check the Obvious and Simple First.......
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ron 45
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| 09-08-2010 11:22 PM |
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Scooter... So what your actually saying is it comes out to about 20 BTU's per 100 square feet |
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Slug-Gunner
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| 09-09-2010 12:18 AM |
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Posted By ron 45 on 09-09-2010 12:22 AM
Scooter... So what your actually saying is it comes out to about 20 BTU's per 100 square feet
Ron, Need to 'double-check' your math..... that would be 20 BTU's per SQUARE FOOT..... or 2000 BTU's per 100 sq. ft. |
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| Slug-Gunner - - - Augusta, GA - - - Keep an "Open Mind" = You'll NEVER STOP LEARNING! |
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ron 45
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| 09-10-2010 04:47 AM |
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Slug-Gunner.... It serves me right, I never did learn how to type. I've always been the two finger typer, recently trying to twach myself to use all the fingers. I honestly don't know how the two zeros got there. I meant to right ( type), " 20 BTU's per 1 square foot". When I came back from getting a cup of coffee and read what I had typed, I just changed the foot to feet ( plural ). Man, was I lost.... |
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scooterdown
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| 09-10-2010 05:15 PM |
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Posted By scooterdown on 09-10-2010 06:15 PM
200 BTU's per 100 sq ft.= 20 BTU's per sq ft. Other things to consider...... Windows,shade, sun, N. S. E. W. exposure.air tight insulated, high or low ceiling Open the over head door good-by cold air. Just the human body temp 98.6 x 5 will effect cooling. |
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| Stop The Cry'n and Do Some Try'n.......
Check the Obvious and Simple First.......
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ZIPPER
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| 09-10-2010 06:43 PM |
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How many hours are you using the shop? How long will you have to run the A/C to bring down the temp so you feel comfortable to work in 95° F. I can see a 36" or 42" shop floor fan used as an exhaust at one of the garage doors creating a draft from another open source. This will help to exhaust dust and fumes. If the water heater is gas...watch out when using flammable products for painting and solvent cleaning.
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rdubois1
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| 09-25-2010 02:06 PM |
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get a mini split system it costs more but most efficent ,i work in the hvac field.plus u have extra heat sources, go with a 2 ton system.it only requires a 3 inch hole to hook up.good luck rick |
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